This was a show that took both Ed and Reap by surprise. With our guests, Bradley Lockerman, from the U.S. (http://www.johnsearlstory.com/about.html,) and Prof. John Searl, from the U.K. (http://www.searlsolution.com/.) We discussed the SEG and the "Searl Effect," in detail, and its applications for Free Energy, Space Flight and More.